Are you purposely trying to be obtuse or just really don't understand anything I am saying. I am trying to tell you that there are places all over the country where your experiences exist, but there are many, MANY more that are not. I was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia, yes, but now live in Colorado. I also lived in California, Texas, New York, and D.C.. Not to emntion as far as a world view I lived in Japan, Korea, did tours in Australia, Guam, UAE, and even a three month stint in Kenya. I am not bragging just saying I feel in the comparison i have broader scope of people in this country and world and know I am not going to judge an entire race people, white, black, or otherwise, on the actions of a few. You say you judge everyone individually, but then contradict that by saying all or most vilify white people. I just don't understand how you can say you can be fair minded when you have blantant preconceptions on a person you may not even know just based on their race or whatever. I don't mean that necessarily as a criticism, I truly am trying to understand the complexities of your world view. They are a little mind-boggling
Oh and as an aside, I was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia so maybe that's how your little slice of the south is but as you can see, not mine or others.
Indeed.. That would explain why all the other slices of the country have absolutely no racial problems at all and everywhere but my slice is just spiffy.
Oh and as an aside, I was born and raised in Atlanta, Georgia so maybe that's how your little slice of the south is but as you can see, not mine or others.
Tell me where I called you a racist? What I said was others might call you that, but I have enough of a history to understand you are trying to have a conversation and yes, I may have attacked your theories and generalizations (if that's the word you prefer) but I was attacking only you generalizations, not you or calling you a racist.
And it occurs to me that you seem to be upset over the generaliztions Madison and other blacks make about white people but then on the other hand you (in a different vein I'll grant) do much the same. I see and hear Madison do it and I've read some of your post and you have done it too. in essence you are both guilty of the same crime....but I digress. Just wanted to point out the only thing you got out of what I wrote was you were being called a racist, when actually, I was not calling you a racist. I was[/] explaining my point of view to you, disagreeing[i/] with you, and attcking some of your arguments, but not labeling you. I've been labeled many times in my life and it sucks, so, I wouldn't do it to anyone else.
No I do not have a "relationship quite like that. I do have Black friends that come over for a BBQ or just to visit and go out with my wife and I to eat or a game and such. I don't know where you live but I am in La. about 40 miles from New Orleans so I suppose we have a different breed of people here because I have to send my kids to a school in a different parish just so they can actually get an education without having to put up with all the crap during class that the teachers have to deal with that isn't educating and 8 out of 10 times it isn't the white kids disrupting the class. We go 5 miles out of our way past the nearest store so my wife and kids aren't propositioned or just offered whatever the flavor of the week is. It's not my neighbor hood the damned sirens whale at all hours of the night at least once a week in. One friend I have is from Atlanta and moved to New Orleans and then moved to my town and he said he had to get away from there because of all the niggers! And he is black. You and others may say I'm racist but the blacks I associate with would argue the point and tell you that I just cut through the BS and call it as it is. They agree that a nigger is a nigger and a Black is just that. Same as everyone else just different color. Maybe in other states people are too politically correct I don't know or care and it won't affect me either way. As I stated earlier I don't think any community should be "generalized" as Madison puts it and "stereotyped" as you call it. There isn't much difference in either. I simply pointed out that Madison is doing no better than a David Duke on the radio when he decides to use "White America" as the term for saying and accusing an entire race of one thing or another. So as I have used "Blacks" in my statement you accuse me as a racist but won't recognize that Madison who is supposed to be against racism is doing no different. That type of shit goes on and is accepted here and everywhere for the majority yet isn't tolerated one second if the they are white in the media nor in the citizenry for the majority of at least the south.
Umm... I don't know where you live, but if I start spouting nigger this and nigger that to anybody (white or black) I would get fired immediately and I am black! As a matter of fact the way we treat each other is as intgral in private as it is in public.
Another thing I would like address to you is these assumptions you seem to have about everyone! You assume all whites, everywhere, feel like you and the people you know. And you seem to think that because an Al Sharpton or Joe Madison says something then thats how ALL black people think. That's what I mean when I talk about stereotypes. I know alot of public figures that were calling For Imus's resignation, but truthfully I don't know one black person personally who really gave sh*t. Did you see Damon Wayans on the View? Did you here what he said about the situation? If not, google it, that's exactly how most black people felt.
What kills me about your argument is all you ever mention or cite are the times a black personality has done something you don't agree with, but you never mention the times other personalities of other races do the same to other races. Also you never seem to acknowledge the fact that just because YOU don't precieve something as racist doesn't make it feel anyless so to a victim of it, but you're very quick to talk about the double standard of racism that exist in this society, which, by the way I am not denying. Problem with that is you seem to have a problem with things that to most black people say/do, but lightly glance over those things whites or others races may do that's offensive. It doesn't really matter because most of us are not worried about those things on a daily basis. I know what most of my friends(white AND black) and I are worried about. Heres a list:
Economy, War in Iraq, my children's education, paying my mortgage, etc.
As long as the list may be, a racist white man is not on it. A racist white man's comment's is not on it. An ignorant black man looking for an excuse is not on it. That's mans comments is not on it. Pecieved racism in genneral isn't on it. Oh and that doesn't mean I don't think racism doesn't exist. I was born and raised in Georgia, I know it exist.
I guess my point is all your arguments center around how blacks are given an unfair pass in society, but you might want to acknowldge that your very argument shows a lot of assumptions and misconceptions about black people that most whites themselves have. You may work with alot of black people but how many do you know, and have had an HONEST relationship with? My best friend is a white man I have known since I was eight years old (32 now). That's not lip service. he was best man at my wedding, is godfather to two of my kids and I love him (literally) like a brother. He is one of the only people I truly count as my family anymore. So have you ever, in your life, had an HONEST relationship with another person of color like that? Honest meaning no matter how your thoughts may have offended that person they truly know how you felt about any given subject. Until you have that kind of relationship, you really can't understand what I mean I guess. That's the reason why I can have a calm conversation with you about this, because most black people you dismiss would similarly dismiss you as an ignorant racist and leave it at that. But I realize you just have alot of misinformation.
You spout the tripe you spout and then criticize some for being ignorant... I won't call you a bunch of names, I'll just call you what you are:
An ignorant (albeit well written), stereotyping racist
There, I even gave you a compliment, now you can enjoy yourself.
It can be said the same for Madison. I have pointed out several things and heard others try to point out false statements that madison spouts on his program but the audience is more interested in hearing what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
Secondly I am far from racist.. predugice is more like it at times when as Madison calls it "generalizing of course yall" White America this and that so you might have to excuse my inherited predisposition to not like blacks as it has been said by some nut ball prefessor in some nutball university and that every non black has cultural conditioned me and others to see all the bad and none of the good in blacks. Yep hearing that just puts me and others in a very friendly mood.
And just for the record I have always tried to treat everyone the same regardless of color but it seems lately that whites are just evil no matter what you do so why bother anymore. I have decided to just let it roll and really don't give a damned about helping the black community any more or contributing to their efforts. If I and others are to be "generalized" then we might as well be what is percieved rightfully. If I am to do the time I will damned sure do the crime.
That's funny because most whites I know don't feel like they are treated as an evil entity "no matter what". If the white community is justly criticized for this or that then that's one thng but if you feel you're portrayed as evil then it is encumbant on you to ensure to correct that misconception, not reinforce it by saying 'screw it, if that's what they think, that's what they get'. Much in the same way that I, as a black man, will not simply be stereotyped as an individual who "Grabs his 40 and a crack pipe and bounces on down the skreet."
I don't know about you but I have worked to hard in my life, served honorably in The Marine Corps, and tries to be the best parent possible to simply be classified as gangster filth because of the color of my skin. While there may be reverse racism it is no more acceptable for me to react to stereotyping and racism as you have.
Thats just it you shouldn't critize a [B]community[/B] white, black, or otherwise. But if you watch the news or tv you can see where if a white person such as Imus says one thing off color then he must give up his career and be pounded into the ground.. the same for the Duke players, etc. but you hear black people from comedians, talk show hosts on TV radio and etc doing the same if not worse and yet you don't hear a peep out of the Sharpton types or groups protesting them. I work with Blacks and whites all day long and I hear nigga this and nigga that from the blacks and it is passed off as nothing but if some little white gangsta wanna be utters the word once they are fired!? A black can use any derogatory term for a white and it is completely acceptable 99% of the time. And you think that puts white people in a mood for unity!?
As for your white friends.. I would bet that if they were asked how they felt by a white in private they would show similar feelings as I and others have. It is all to often just not shown out of political correctness and trying to get along to avoid confrontation with the black friends they do have. I and others are fed up with having to be "generalized" for the actions that some whites in the past have done and what some whites now are doing. I have many black friends and they know exactly how I feel and we get along fine at work and on the street I treat a person by their personality not their color. And I know many blacks that do the same but it is the constant generalizing from both white and black activists and personalities that keep this wedge between us driven into the ground.
You spout the tripe you spout and then criticize some for being ignorant... I won't call you a bunch of names, I'll just call you what you are:
An ignorant (albeit well written), stereotyping racist
There, I even gave you a compliment, now you can enjoy yourself.
It can be said the same for Madison. I have pointed out several things and heard others try to point out false statements that madison spouts on his program but the audience is more interested in hearing what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
Secondly I am far from racist.. predugice is more like it at times when as Madison calls it "generalizing of course yall" White America this and that so you might have to excuse my inherited predisposition to not like blacks as it has been said by some nut ball prefessor in some nutball university and that every non black has cultural conditioned me and others to see all the bad and none of the good in blacks. Yep hearing that just puts me and others in a very friendly mood.
And just for the record I have always tried to treat everyone the same regardless of color but it seems lately that whites are just evil no matter what you do so why bother anymore. I have decided to just let it roll and really don't give a damned about helping the black community any more or contributing to their efforts. If I and others are to be "generalized" then we might as well be what is percieved rightfully. If I am to do the time I will damned sure do the crime.
That's funny because most whites I know don't feel like they are treated as an evil entity "no matter what". If the white community is justly criticized for this or that then that's one thng but if you feel you're portrayed as evil then it is encumbant on you to ensure to correct that misconception, not reinforce it by saying 'screw it, if that's what they think, that's what they get'. Much in the same way that I, as a black man, will not simply be stereotyped as an individual who "Grabs his 40 and a crack pipe and bounces on down the skreet."
I don't know about you but I have worked to hard in my life, served honorably in The Marine Corps, and tries to be the best parent possible to simply be classified as gangster filth because of the color of my skin. While there may be reverse racism it is no more acceptable for me to react to stereotyping and racism as you have.
You spout the tripe you spout and then criticize some for being ignorant... I won't call you a bunch of names, I'll just call you what you are:
An ignorant (albeit well written), stereotyping racist
There, I even gave you a compliment, now you can enjoy yourself.
It can be said the same for Madison. I have pointed out several things and heard others try to point out false statements that madison spouts on his program but the audience is more interested in hearing what they want to hear instead of what the truth is.
Secondly I am far from racist.. predugice is more like it at times when as Madison calls it "generalizing of course yall" White America this and that so you might have to excuse my inherited predisposition to not like blacks as it has been said by some nut ball prefessor in some nutball university and that every non black has cultural conditioned me and others to see all the bad and none of the good in blacks. Yep hearing that just puts me and others in a very friendly mood.
And just for the record I have always tried to treat everyone the same regardless of color but it seems lately that whites are just evil no matter what you do so why bother anymore. I have decided to just let it roll and really don't give a damned about helping the black community any more or contributing to their efforts. If I and others are to be "generalized" then we might as well be what is percieved rightfully. If I am to do the time I will damned sure do the crime.
The source for "Ernest T Bass" is the Andy Griffith Show. Happy, D*ck-Head?
That would be all good but when you "quote" Family fucking and meth addict along with the "Ernest T Bass" well you fucked up and it just shows the ignorance.. just quote the name then make the additional insults afterward.
Sheehs hard to get a proper insult around here.. hum bruh
This is about what you can expect from an "Ernest T. Bass family f*cking inbreed, Meth addict". Why are you on here and not f*cking your mom or sister ? Oh, they wouldn't give you any cause they out sweating the brothers and they aren't making anymore time for you, Ok, I understand. G.D. Family F*cker.
Does your ignorant ass know what " " is? Maybe you can give the source for the quotation? LMAO You so KrAaZy =P
Were you smoking dope when you wrote this? What is your point? You are not allowed to leave your mom's house for 2 weeks.
Jay from Dallas wrote:
Often I think of the canary when I think of the black community. In that we have always been the early warning sign of what's to come to the larger community on so many different levels. Historically, however what has happened has been that many have seen the black community as the cause of social ills. The equivalent of this idea can be that of the canary in the coal mine. Imagine the canary in the coal mine that dies from the unseen gases & toxins in the mine. Blady's premise is flawed. She would fault the canary for causing the deaths of the miners, as so many other misguided souls might. It is possible for us to witness an event & from that draw the wrong or least effective conclusions. The quality of the life of the canary does reflect future events inside the mine. Often this society has been as miners who are indifferent to the life of the canary in their mist. As could be imagined how wise would it be to count the canary as a meaningless creature whose life has no value. What is it with these miners that they could imagine that there's no connection to a shared existence. I suppose one could take exception to the canary's appearence (it does "Look Different"). I guess some think that appearence is the great curtain that separates common fates.
This is about what you can expect from an "Ernest T. Bass family f*cking inbreed, Meth addict". Why are you on here and not f*cking your mom or sister ? Oh, they wouldn't give you any cause they out sweating the brothers and they aren't making anymore time for you, Ok, I understand. G.D. Family F*cker.
I'm amazed that noone here has commented on this brilliant thought. Surely, greater minds could expand the richness of the germ in this idea and fly with it to encourage in inspire or at least produce thoughtful reflection.
I understand that Jay wanted to be terse in making his point here, but some people might not understand, Jay. They might not understand that miners used to take canaries down with them into coal mines and that they used the canaries to determine whether or not there did indeed have poisonous gases in the coal mine. If the canary died, the miners knew that they had to leave the mine or else risk facing death themselves from the unseen toxins in the mine. People would have to know this already, Jay; before they could understand the point you were trying to make.
Often I think of the canary when I think of the black community. In that we have always been the early warning sign of what's to come to the larger community on so many different levels. Historically, however what has happened has been that many have seen the black community as the cause of social ills. The equivalent of this idea can be that of the canary in the coal mine. Imagine the canary in the coal mine that dies from the unseen gases & toxins in the mine. Blady's premise is flawed. She would fault the canary for causing the deaths of the miners, as so many other misguided souls might. It is possible for us to witness an event & from that draw the wrong or least effective conclusions. The quality of the life of the canary does reflect future events inside the mine. Often this society has been as miners who are indifferent to the life of the canary in their mist. As could be imagined how wise would it be to count the canary as a meaningless creature whose life has no value. What is it with these miners that they could imagine that there's no connection to a shared existence. I suppose one could take exception to the canary's appearence (it does "Look Different"). I guess some think that appearence is the great curtain that separates common fates.
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